{"id":2156,"date":"2020-11-18T07:42:39","date_gmt":"2020-11-18T07:42:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/35.94.173.37\/blog\/?p=2156"},"modified":"2024-11-04T07:45:25","modified_gmt":"2024-11-04T07:45:25","slug":"passive-voltage-probe-measurements","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.apexwaves.com\/blog\/passive-voltage-probe-measurements\/","title":{"rendered":"Passive Voltage Probe Measurements"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One of the probe types that can be used with an oscilloscope is a passive-voltage probe. The simplest passive-voltage probe is a coaxial cable. But what happens when a coaxial cable is linked to the device under test? A schematic diagram of the test arrangement is given in Fig. 4.1. The device under test is symbolized as a signal source with an internal source resistance\u00a0<em>Rs.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>For dc voltages, there is no problem as long as R10\u00a0<em>Rs,\u00a0<\/em>because the part of\u00a0<em>E\u00a0<\/em>appearing at the input of the oscilloscope is<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table class=\" alignleft\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"48\">\n<table width=\"100%\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>=\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 +<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><em><u>Rin<\/u><\/em><em>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 E<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>V osc<\/em>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<em>Rs\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/em>R1n\u2022<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Fig. 4.1<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1304\" src=\"https:\/\/www.apexwaves.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/Passive-Voltage-Probe.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"276\" height=\"193\" \/><\/p>\n<p>However, in applications involving ac voltages, the stray capacitances have an imperative role. Figure 4.1 shows the signal source loaded by\u00a0<em>R, n\u00a0<\/em>in parallel with Cc + C10\u2022\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0As the impedance Xe of a capacitance is provided by<\/p>\n<p><strong>1<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Xe= 2<u>nfC<\/u><\/em><\/p>\n<p>in which f is the frequency of the ac voltage, a relatively heavier loading of the signal source will occur at higher frequencies.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Example\u00a0<\/em><\/strong>C10 is on the order of 14 to 21 pF; for a coaxial cable of 1-m length,\u00a0<em>Cc\u00a0<\/em>is about 100 pF. At 1 MHz, the impedance of\u00a0<em>Cc +\u00a0<\/em>C10 is approximately1.3 kil. Compared with a R10\u00a0of 1 Mil (normally standardized), this means a heavy load.<\/p>\n<p>From this example it will be realized that it is important to measure the voltage at a point in a circuit under test having a low source impedance, in order not to influence the circuit properties too much by the connection of the oscilloscope.<\/p>\n<p>Figure 4.2 shows a typical coaxial cable.\u00a0 On one end, a BNC connector\u00a0is mounted for connection to the oscilloscope. The other end is provided with a special measuring clip (the probe tip) and a ground lead connector. This type of probe is a 1:1 probe because the signal is not attenuated by the probe. The cable capacitance of this type of probe may be in the order of magnitude like the example.<\/p>\n<p>In cases where the cable capacitance of the l:1 probe will be unacceptable, advantage can be taken of the 10:1 passive probe. Now the signal is attenuated l0 times by the probe. Basically, the object is to create a real IO: l divider for both de and high frequencies. This divider will be independent of the frequency for\u00a0<em>RC =<\/em>\u00a0R1nC1n.<\/p>\n<p>As previously mentioned, C10\u00a0can\u00a0vary from 15 to 25 pF, depending on stray capacitances in the input circuitry of the oscilloscopes, which are different for each instrument. For this reason, C is made variable.<\/p>\n<p>However, a more realistic schematic diagram would show that the compensation is for 120 pF, giving a value of C = 13 pF. At the probe tip, there should also be a stray capacitance C. of about 2 to 4 pF from the tip itself to its environment. \u00a0Effectively, a complete load capacitance of\u00a0<em>C8\u00a0<\/em>parallel to C and\u00a0<em>Cc\u00a0<\/em>+ C10\u00a0in\u00a0series would be obtained, resulting in about 15 pF. But 15 pF is far less than 120 pF. A disadvantage might be that the signal is attenuated 10 times at the input of the oscilloscope.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the probe types that can be used with an oscilloscope is a passive-voltage probe. The simplest passive-voltage probe is a coaxial cable. But what happens when a coaxial cable is linked to the device under test? A schematic diagram of the test arrangement is given in Fig. 4.1. 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